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	<title>Comments on: The United States is Torturing Terrorists&#8230;.Aren&#8217;t They?</title>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
		<link>http://www.theblarg.com/2006/09/20/the-united-states-is-torturing-terroristsarent-they/comment-page-1/#comment-16438</link>
		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drop the BOMB and stop everything now</description>
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		<title>By: Angelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say it aloud (in your best Ah-nold voice):
&quot;George W. Bush&quot;
&quot;George W. Bush&quot;
&quot;George W. Bush&quot;

I love that commerical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say it aloud (in your best Ah-nold voice):<br />
&#8220;George W. Bush&#8221;<br />
&#8220;George W. Bush&#8221;<br />
&#8220;George W. Bush&#8221;</p>
<p>I love that commerical!</p>
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		<title>By: nathan118</title>
		<link>http://www.theblarg.com/2006/09/20/the-united-states-is-torturing-terroristsarent-they/comment-page-1/#comment-2593</link>
		<dc:creator>nathan118</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 06:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure exactly. I think I was making a point about torture vs coersion, but really it all comes down to Iraq.

BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure exactly. I think I was making a point about torture vs coersion, but really it all comes down to Iraq.</p>
<p>BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED! BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED!</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://www.theblarg.com/2006/09/20/the-united-states-is-torturing-terroristsarent-they/comment-page-1/#comment-2590</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 02:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all that says is that &quot;many opponents of the war have argued...&quot;  since when does people arguing it make it true?

what are you guys even talking about anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all that says is that &#8220;many opponents of the war have argued&#8230;&#8221;  since when does people arguing it make it true?</p>
<p>what are you guys even talking about anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: tHe.RuMoR</title>
		<link>http://www.theblarg.com/2006/09/20/the-united-states-is-torturing-terroristsarent-they/comment-page-1/#comment-2589</link>
		<dc:creator>tHe.RuMoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unilateralism in the United States

Unilateralism has had a long history in the United States. In his famous and influential Farewell Address, George Washington warned that the United States should &quot;steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world&quot;. Many years later, this approach was labeled (by its opponents) as &quot;isolationism&quot;, but some historians of U.S. diplomacy have long argued that &quot;isolationism&quot; is a misnomer, and that U.S. foreign policy, beginning with Washington, has traditionally been driven by unilateralism. Recent works that have made this argument include Walter A. McDougall&#039;s Promised Land, Crusader State (1997) and John Lewis Gaddis&#039;s Surprise, Security, and the American Experience (2004).

Debates about unilateralism recently came to the forefront with the Iraq War. While over 30 countries have supported the U.S. policy, some previous American allies, such as France, Germany and Turkey, are not participating. Many opponents of the war have argued that the United States is &quot;going it alone&quot; in Iraq without the support of multilateral institutions--in this case NATO and the United Nations, which America has supported since the end of World War II.

Advocates of U.S. unilateralism argue that other countries should not have &quot;veto power&quot; over matters of U.S. national security. Presidential Candidate John Kerry received heavy political heat after saying, during a presidential debate, that American national security actions must pass a &quot;global test&quot;. This was interpreted by Kerry opponents as a proposal to submit U.S. foreign policy to approval by other countries. Proponents of U.S. unilateralism generally believe that a multilateral institution, such as the United Nations, is morally suspect because, they argue, it treats non-democratic, and even despotic, regimes as being as legitimate as democratic countries. Proponents also point out that the unilateralist policy of having the United States control post World War Two Japan was a success than having mulilateral policies such as those used in post war Germany. Japan only took 5 years before adopting their constitution while Germany was divided into West Germany and East Germany for 45 years and being controlled by the United States, France, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union before being reunited.

Critics of American unilateralism point to the ethical implications of engaging in armed conflicts that may inevitably draw in combatants from other nations, as well as the undermining of the international ability to protect small nations from aggressors. Unilateralism, it is argued, can be considered nothing more than a positively-sold version of the very actions that would earn other states the title of aggressor or rogue nation. Opponents of unilateralism say it rejects the essential interwoven nature of modern global politics and perhaps underestimates the extent to which a conflict in one country can affect civilians in others.

Proponents of multilateralism argue that it would provide a country with greater resources, both militarily and economically, and would help in defraying the cost of military action. However, with divided responsibility inevitably comes divided authority, and thus (in theory at least) slower military reaction times and the demand that troops follow commanders from other nations. Multilateralists argue that co-operations strengthens the bonds between nations and peoples, paints the U.S. in a more responsible and respected light, and reduces the risk of wildfire conflicts by increasing the size and unity of the enemy such a rogue nation would face.&quot;

That came from wikidpedia.

&#039;Many opponents of the war have argued that the United States is &quot;going it alone&quot; in Iraq without the support of multilateral institutions--in this case NATO and the United Nations, which America has supported since the end of World War II.&#039;

As if an encylopedia couldnt be any more correct. Thanks Nathan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unilateralism in the United States</p>
<p>Unilateralism has had a long history in the United States. In his famous and influential Farewell Address, George Washington warned that the United States should &#8220;steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world&#8221;. Many years later, this approach was labeled (by its opponents) as &#8220;isolationism&#8221;, but some historians of U.S. diplomacy have long argued that &#8220;isolationism&#8221; is a misnomer, and that U.S. foreign policy, beginning with Washington, has traditionally been driven by unilateralism. Recent works that have made this argument include Walter A. McDougall&#8217;s Promised Land, Crusader State (1997) and John Lewis Gaddis&#8217;s Surprise, Security, and the American Experience (2004).</p>
<p>Debates about unilateralism recently came to the forefront with the Iraq War. While over 30 countries have supported the U.S. policy, some previous American allies, such as France, Germany and Turkey, are not participating. Many opponents of the war have argued that the United States is &#8220;going it alone&#8221; in Iraq without the support of multilateral institutions&#8211;in this case NATO and the United Nations, which America has supported since the end of World War II.</p>
<p>Advocates of U.S. unilateralism argue that other countries should not have &#8220;veto power&#8221; over matters of U.S. national security. Presidential Candidate John Kerry received heavy political heat after saying, during a presidential debate, that American national security actions must pass a &#8220;global test&#8221;. This was interpreted by Kerry opponents as a proposal to submit U.S. foreign policy to approval by other countries. Proponents of U.S. unilateralism generally believe that a multilateral institution, such as the United Nations, is morally suspect because, they argue, it treats non-democratic, and even despotic, regimes as being as legitimate as democratic countries. Proponents also point out that the unilateralist policy of having the United States control post World War Two Japan was a success than having mulilateral policies such as those used in post war Germany. Japan only took 5 years before adopting their constitution while Germany was divided into West Germany and East Germany for 45 years and being controlled by the United States, France, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union before being reunited.</p>
<p>Critics of American unilateralism point to the ethical implications of engaging in armed conflicts that may inevitably draw in combatants from other nations, as well as the undermining of the international ability to protect small nations from aggressors. Unilateralism, it is argued, can be considered nothing more than a positively-sold version of the very actions that would earn other states the title of aggressor or rogue nation. Opponents of unilateralism say it rejects the essential interwoven nature of modern global politics and perhaps underestimates the extent to which a conflict in one country can affect civilians in others.</p>
<p>Proponents of multilateralism argue that it would provide a country with greater resources, both militarily and economically, and would help in defraying the cost of military action. However, with divided responsibility inevitably comes divided authority, and thus (in theory at least) slower military reaction times and the demand that troops follow commanders from other nations. Multilateralists argue that co-operations strengthens the bonds between nations and peoples, paints the U.S. in a more responsible and respected light, and reduces the risk of wildfire conflicts by increasing the size and unity of the enemy such a rogue nation would face.&#8221;</p>
<p>That came from wikidpedia.</p>
<p>&#8216;Many opponents of the war have argued that the United States is &#8220;going it alone&#8221; in Iraq without the support of multilateral institutions&#8211;in this case NATO and the United Nations, which America has supported since the end of World War II.&#8217;</p>
<p>As if an encylopedia couldnt be any more correct. Thanks Nathan.</p>
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		<title>By: nathan118</title>
		<link>http://www.theblarg.com/2006/09/20/the-united-states-is-torturing-terroristsarent-they/comment-page-1/#comment-2572</link>
		<dc:creator>nathan118</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you never heard of Great Britain? Japan? Spain? Italy? I&#039;m pretty sure they&#039;re all in the UN.

That&#039;s not conservative propaganda, those are facts. Just because I point out your &quot;unilateral&quot; comment is liberal propaganda does not automatically make my comment conservative propaganda.

To be honest, if you&#039;ve got a point to make you have to be much more succinct, and make better use of paragraphs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you never heard of Great Britain? Japan? Spain? Italy? I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;re all in the UN.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not conservative propaganda, those are facts. Just because I point out your &#8220;unilateral&#8221; comment is liberal propaganda does not automatically make my comment conservative propaganda.</p>
<p>To be honest, if you&#8217;ve got a point to make you have to be much more succinct, and make better use of paragraphs.</p>
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		<title>By: tHe.RuMoR</title>
		<link>http://www.theblarg.com/2006/09/20/the-united-states-is-torturing-terroristsarent-they/comment-page-1/#comment-2571</link>
		<dc:creator>tHe.RuMoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so i say lets stop resorting to acting like bad guys to get what we need. Even if they dont abide by the Geneva Convention, we were  primary factors in the drafting of it and i say we adhere to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so i say lets stop resorting to acting like bad guys to get what we need. Even if they dont abide by the Geneva Convention, we were  primary factors in the drafting of it and i say we adhere to it.</p>
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		<title>By: tHe.RuMoR</title>
		<link>http://www.theblarg.com/2006/09/20/the-united-states-is-torturing-terroristsarent-they/comment-page-1/#comment-2570</link>
		<dc:creator>tHe.RuMoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;he was unsupported by member states of the US (should be changed to UN)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he was unsupported by member states of the US (should be changed to UN)</p>
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		<title>By: tHe.RuMoR</title>
		<link>http://www.theblarg.com/2006/09/20/the-united-states-is-torturing-terroristsarent-they/comment-page-1/#comment-2568</link>
		<dc:creator>tHe.RuMoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, believe it or not, actually try to stick to facts. Your always going to hear bad stories from both sides of the fence; The thing you need to realize is that as much as my arguements sound like liberal propaganda, yours support a conservative propaganda- I really have no bias, i vote independent, and i think that both liberals and conservatives have much to learn from eachother. It is the idea of only thinking for one side that causes such disaster, and what im trying to do is serve as a &quot;devil&#039;s advocate&quot; as you might call it. Dont think for a second that i feel like Iraq is getting the short end of the stick, i just believe that there are issues that the US can go about differently solving, so instead of rambling on about all the facts I tried to stick to an arguement that should support the idea that the United States should not be torturing detainees. Call it liberal bias, but you need to understand that any way you try to argue this you are not thinking in gestalt, because if you take time to consider everything you&#039;d realize that Torture is just a method used to put the fear of masses at bay, it gives certain individuals gratification; a sense of retrobution for all theyve done to us. Sad thing is that sooner or later one side is going to have to change or we will continue down this path for years and years. And as a rebuttal to your democracy statement, ever care to understand that we have forced democracy on them? its not like we gave them and option and told them to set up and institution of their own- We told them how it would be and what to do... so in essence we are just running another country, your talking about a country that has been at war with itself and neighboring countries since the beginning of time. What a savior president Bush is to Iraq- too bad he doesnt carry any labor for his efforts, it is the troops over there who are making all the changes, and it is the mothers over here who are doing all the crying. And yes, Bush did enter the Iraq war unilaterally, do some research- He was unsupported by member states of the US and he went to Iraq anyway... Maybe this had something to do with the fact that he hadnt even finished up in Afghanistan before moving to Iraq. What ever happened to Osama? I, as unbiased as i can be, truly believe that the reason there is so much hatred and animosity in the world is because we dont like to admit it but we are actually not that different. Im not trying to blow smoke up your arse with some liberal propoganda, i just saw this post, saw one point of view taken, and figured id argue for the other side- I do stick to facts and ive left supporting website links to all of my arguements...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, believe it or not, actually try to stick to facts. Your always going to hear bad stories from both sides of the fence; The thing you need to realize is that as much as my arguements sound like liberal propaganda, yours support a conservative propaganda- I really have no bias, i vote independent, and i think that both liberals and conservatives have much to learn from eachother. It is the idea of only thinking for one side that causes such disaster, and what im trying to do is serve as a &#8220;devil&#8217;s advocate&#8221; as you might call it. Dont think for a second that i feel like Iraq is getting the short end of the stick, i just believe that there are issues that the US can go about differently solving, so instead of rambling on about all the facts I tried to stick to an arguement that should support the idea that the United States should not be torturing detainees. Call it liberal bias, but you need to understand that any way you try to argue this you are not thinking in gestalt, because if you take time to consider everything you&#8217;d realize that Torture is just a method used to put the fear of masses at bay, it gives certain individuals gratification; a sense of retrobution for all theyve done to us. Sad thing is that sooner or later one side is going to have to change or we will continue down this path for years and years. And as a rebuttal to your democracy statement, ever care to understand that we have forced democracy on them? its not like we gave them and option and told them to set up and institution of their own- We told them how it would be and what to do&#8230; so in essence we are just running another country, your talking about a country that has been at war with itself and neighboring countries since the beginning of time. What a savior president Bush is to Iraq- too bad he doesnt carry any labor for his efforts, it is the troops over there who are making all the changes, and it is the mothers over here who are doing all the crying. And yes, Bush did enter the Iraq war unilaterally, do some research- He was unsupported by member states of the US and he went to Iraq anyway&#8230; Maybe this had something to do with the fact that he hadnt even finished up in Afghanistan before moving to Iraq. What ever happened to Osama? I, as unbiased as i can be, truly believe that the reason there is so much hatred and animosity in the world is because we dont like to admit it but we are actually not that different. Im not trying to blow smoke up your arse with some liberal propoganda, i just saw this post, saw one point of view taken, and figured id argue for the other side- I do stick to facts and ive left supporting website links to all of my arguements&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: /&#60;evin</title>
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		<dc:creator>/&#60;evin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 05:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit I didn&#039;t read most of these comments....  the name &quot;therumor&quot; was all I needed to see.  my first comment still stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit I didn&#8217;t read most of these comments&#8230;.  the name &#8220;therumor&#8221; was all I needed to see.  my first comment still stands.</p>
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